Some people claim that an actual therapist would suggest chemical castration is too taboo as a sexual fantasy.
Is that true?
I'm sure someone could find an edge case that would make this untrue, but I don't think that there's such a thing as like too taboo for a fantasy.
Too taboo to enact in the real world?
Sure, absolutely.
There's a lot of fantasies that are ones you shouldn't enact in the real world.
But like if your fantasy is about chemical castration, I don't know why that's too taboo or why a therapist would say that that's a problem.
I think the classic therapist thing, right, is like what is it about for you?
What about it is hot for you?
What gets you into it?
What are you getting from it?
What interests you about it, right?
I think that that's a thing that therapists might ask about, but for me at least I don't think there's a fantasy that's too taboo.
Someone's absolutely going to find something that's going to be maybe obviously too taboo, I guess.
I don't know.
I feel like we’ve run into this really dangerous territory around like the pro ship versus anti-ship discourse or the right now with what's going on with itch, right, where they took down a ton of not safe for work games and content because of payment processors as like, well, but you want them to have incest games on there.
You want them to have pedophilia games on there?
I don't want anything about that necessarily, but I also don't think that it should be up to Visa and MasterCard to decide what kind of media gets to be made and who gets to pay for it and whether it should be allowed to be sold.
I don't think that that makes sense.
I don't think that policing our thoughts and our fantasies the same way we would police real world actions makes any sense because enjoying something in fantasy does not always translate.
I swear.
So, enjoying something in fantasy doesn't always translate to enjoying something in the real world and just because something would be absolutely horrible and unacceptable in the real world, that doesn't mean that you can't fantasize about it.
We have loads of fiction out there about stuff that is abhorrent and I don't think that's necessarily bad.
I think that there is a difference between are you allowed to enjoy super racist literotica stories versus should publishers pay a lot of money to publish super racist literotica stories or romance books, right?
Versus should they at giant swinger conferences have a chocolate room manned by Black sex workers who are there to have sex with white patrons, right?
The fantasy of something that is racist is something that may exist in your brain.
I may not want to talk to you about it or engage in it with you but like you have a fantasy.
I know several Black folks who are very into race play fantasies in ways that I would not be comfortable playing with them but that is their thing.
Good for them, right?
That is not the same thing as writing stories about it in your fantasy.
Whatever, that's your fantasy.
I may not want to read it.
I may not be into it but like you should be able to write that story.
Should a publisher pay you a ton of money to write something very fucking racist?
No, I don't think so.
I don't think that should happen, right?
And this is that difference.
I think that if what you're trying to do is find medications from a doctor to do actual for real life chemical castration, I think you should talk to some folks first.
It's your body and I believe very strongly in bodily autonomy and I think it's worth talking over the pros and cons, the risks especially over the long term, what's driving that for you with a professional of some sort before you actually do it.
But I mean again just the fantasy like reading a story about it, thinking about it in your head, is that too taboo?
No, it's taboo but lots of fantasies are taboo.
Lots of things people do are taboo and that doesn't mean that it's bad.
Taboo largely just means that it's not common and therefore people have a kind of knee-jerk disgust reaction to it because they haven't been exposed to it as much.
This is a kind of silly metaphor but I remember when the kind of swing first happened from like straight cut or boot cut jeans over to skinny jeans and I freaking hated skinny jeans.
I still don't love skinny jeans.
They're not my fave, but they were disgusting to me because I hadn't seen a lot of them.
They were weird.
They were different.
They were wrong and our brains to a certain extent have a certain amount of neophobia particularly around certain kinds of things.
And so, once I'd seen more of them and they'd been around for longer, then I was like maybe I do want skinny jeans.
I could tuck them into my boots.
And I think that that's part of what we talk about with sexual taboo is that there's a lot of stuff that we talk about fairly openly now that used to be hugely sexually taboo.
I mean freaking Game of Thrones has incest all up in that bitch and that's a hugely taboo sexual fantasy that a lot of people also have.
So, is it too taboo to have this fantasy of chemical castration?
No.
Should you enact it in the real world?
I think probably talk to some people first and also it's your body, as long as it is your body.
If you're chemically castrating someone else, whole other bag of worms.
But like is it too taboo?
No.
It's just weird.
I agree.
Taboo is what makes it fun
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Also, the phrasing of this that like an actual therapist would suggest chemical castration is too taboo.
I'm an actual therapist.
I have two licenses.
I've had others before.
I don't know what you mean by actual therapist as opposed to what – I don't know.
But is it too taboo?
No.
Too taboo doesn't mean anything to me at least.
Too taboo to put in the real world?
Maybe.
But again, choices.
